Roger Curtis of Inverary, Ontario writes:

“I've been spending the last few months – no, years - wondering why so many people hate teachers' unions. Do these same people hate other unions as much? If it was called a professional association, would it escape their wrath? But it bears asking, who are these people, anyway? And should I take them seriously? Am I to believe that if I wait long enough, the same authors will get around to say, their feelings for the incomes of the 1%? I doubt it.

Now we could take these people for their word that they are truly concerned about kids, but I'm inclined to believe otherwise as I don't see letters to the editor when kids are sweltering through June heat or are asked to be ready for final exams two days after their last class.

Read more: Why hate the teachers' unions?
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by YinYang #83
For Broten, Bill 115 is her career defining trophy and for her, this ‘battle’ with the teachers is no longer about what is good for Ontario education or for the fiscal well-being of the province. ‘Winning’ is now about saving her political hide. Otherwise, we would see some compromise on her part about Bill 115 – some give and take. But this is not what we are seeing at all. Truly, it is her way or the highway. She is like a dictator imposing martial law. Her commentary in the media also perpetuates and escalates fear-mongering, which suits her purposes if the public is so mindless to believe her.
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by Chameleon #82
Chantal Mancini's tweet(OSSTF Hamilton)to Broten is bang on that the OLP's agenda is about union busting.
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by YinYang #81
The trolls who post the vitriolic union bashing commentary that invariably follow online newspaper articles must be employed by Broten to escalate public hatred to validate enacting her “god clause” in Bill 115.

The province's education minister Laurel Broten is a “liar, pure and simple. This is about union busting,” tweeted Chantal Mancini, the president of the Ontario Secondary School Teachers Federation (OSSTF) district 21 Hamilton teachers bargaining unit, following a CBC Radio interview on Tuesday November 12, 2012 in which Minister of Education Broten discussed the labour standoff between the provincial government and teachers….

“I asked everyone to stay and around 1:30 a.m. Ken [Coran] and the OSSTF decided to leave the table,” Broten told Metro Morning host Matt Galloway….

“We left the government and the school boards about 1:30 a.m., so the minister is absolutely correct,” OSSTF president Ken Coran told Matt Galloway of Metro Morning. But Coran added that the teachers left the government “with some solutions, some ideas to consider, to further investigate, to further explore”….

Mancini, like many teachers, doesn't feel Broten is being entirely genuine in her take on the negotiations or the government's willingness to hear teachers out. Rather she feels the current impasse between teachers and the province is less about balancing the books and more the result of an unspoken “political agenda, which would involve an anti-union agenda," said Mancini.

Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by Cambrian #79
For the Minister to omit telling Ontarians that the teachers in fact left the table after giving the government solutions to thinks about – solutions that OSSTF feels are worthwhile – is this not a lie of omission or is this just political spin doctoring? This is all about escalating and riling public opinion and this is not acceptable.
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by YinYang #78
After listening to the conversation on Metro Morning with both Broten and Coran, and given that OSSTF made suggestions to the government that they believed have merit, it is now the responsibility of the government to make the move forward to either accept or dismiss these ideas. The proverbial ball is now in the government’s court to call the teachers back to the table.

A news release from the Ontario Secondary Schools Teachers' Federation has been sent out early Monday morning [November 12, 2012] stating that talks between the federation and the government have not ended well.

According to Union president Ken Coran, the two sides could not come up with an agreement, and there will be job action by 20 school boards in Ontario, the Toronto District school board is included in that. The selective strike action means teachers will start refusing to fill in for absent colleagues or supervise students outside of class, refusing to supervise extra-curricular activities, refusing to speak to parents outside of school hours and boycott staff meetings.

This came after the talking period between the two sides was extended in hopes of coming to an agreement.

Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by otn-admin #76
Amanda F ‏@a4dd4a
@OTNetwork This article says we're refusing to supervise extra-curricular, which isn't true and is highly inflammatory.

Just received your tweet and we are posting it here. Thanks

The media just loves to put on their own spin even if it is not true! Thanks for the reality check.

Jeff Sanderson of Sydenham, Ontario writes:

"Bill 115 is not about wages.

It is surprising the lack of understanding many people have on Bill 115, which has pitted teachers against the government. This is not about wages, or even sick days and grid movement. This battle is being waged by teachers in a response to a bill that is neither liberal nor progressive. It is not democratic and perhaps not even constitutional. Should people not stand up when faced with something they believe to be unconstitutional?

Read more: Teachers' fight is not about money
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by Cambrian #74
There ARE educational financial cost saving measures availble. OSSTF suggested taking over both their sick day and benefit liabilities at a savings to taxpayers of $417 million. But for reasons that the government has not explained, they refuse to allow this. Why not?

There is also the EQAO $105 million/year expense that the government refuses to let go of. Originally when EQAO was implemented in 1995, this testing was mandated until 2005. It is now 2012. What the test was originally meant to measure is now so different that it is not like comparing apples to oranges, but apples to pineapples. For instance, in 1995 a child was required to actually write his/her answers in the writing component of the test. In 2012, a child who cannot write can be accommodated by having an adult scribe the writing component for him/her. This testing has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. This testing should be canned.
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by YinYang #73
Even more dangerous to the democratic process than having legislation like Bill 115 is having politicians who do NOT understand what they are doing.

Can you imagine the Minister of Education not knowing the difference between and the Elementary ‘Progress Report’ and the Elementary ‘Report Card’? Well, she doesn’t!

The October 29, 2012 memorandum sent to ETFO members from President Hammond giving an update on a meeting with Minister of Education Broten stated: “A Lesson for the Minister about Progress Reports – Minister Broten acknowledged the government knows how angry ETFO members are about Bill 115, but said she was disappointed about ETFO’s ‘direction’ about the preparation of the ‘report cards’ (her words) …The General Secretary and I [Sam Hammond] gave the Minister of Education a detailed lesson about the history of the ‘Progress Report” and how it differs from report cards, as well as an overview of her own Ministry’s policy document, Growing Success.

This is truly mind-numbing that we have a politician like Laurel Broten helping to make the laws that affect the lives of the people of Ontario spouting off in the media when she clearly does not even understand the details of her own education portfolio!
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by Cambrian #72
Even Broten’s abhorrent suggestion that teachers would place children in harm’s way through any legal strike job sanctions underlines that she does not understand the heart and soul of teachers. Shame. Broten should resign along with McGuinty.

The Liberal government has been proud of its negotiated and signed agreement with OECTA, saying a deal has been reached with approximately one-third of all teachers in the province. However, locally, Catholic elementary teachers rejected the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by the provincial OECTA negotiation team with a resounding no. OECTA’s Halton Elementary Unit members voted 96 per cent against it.

Speaking up on a podium, ETFO president Sam Hammond, who came out for the Halton rally, thanked the local OECTA members for standing up for their rights.

“The next time (education minister) Laurel Broten says 55,000 teachers supported that MOU, here’s your proof that’s not the case,” Hammond said.

Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by Chameleon #66
I have read on Twitter that OECTA bargaining unit presidents are fearful to speak up against the MoU. Why? Catholic education is embedded in the British North America Act, so it cannot be legislated away with just another whimsical article in Bill 115. As in Halton, your job as the leaders of your locals is to make the opportunity to vote on the MoU available to all your members. Otherwise, resign and let someone else do the job.

I cannot even begin to imagine under what circumstances the OLP (nor even the Progressive Conservatives for that matter) could even win one single seat anywhere in Ontario in the next election. Attacking teachers and other labour groups, which represent Ontario working families leaves us thinking that if we all called in sick for work tomorrow the engine of the Ontario economy would grind to a halt.

In a very short period of time, Ontario has gone from a rich vibrant province to a have-not province with the people feeling demoralized and angry. No matter how long the government is prorogued (and I have heard now that March 2013 is when the Legislature will return – nice paid holiday for our MPP’s!), we will not forget to hold the OLP accountable for all of its scandals. What a mess there is to clean up!
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by Cambrian #65
As in Halton, all OECTA locals must be given the chance to vote about the LIB MoU that has now been imposed on every single teacher in Ontario. OECTA President Kevin O'Dwyer's (outgoing president at that because he's getting kicked out by his membership .... but do you see headlines to that effect in the media??? - of course not) one vote CANNOT represent all 55,000 Ontario Catholic teachers. This MoU is political manipulation by the OLP, and along with everything else we have been finding out about including this this gas plant scandal, (and let me tell you we won't forget), this will mean death at the polls for the OLP and probably the Tories as well at the next provincial election.

Whoever thinks he/she can replace McGuinty and make a go of it, is committing political suicide. Dwight Duncan is wise not to run for the Liberal leadership as he wants a life after McGuinty. If Sandra Pupatello thinks she can do it, well she will have a shorter tenure than Kim Campbell.
Posted: 5 years, 3 months ago by YinYang #64
The whole premise of imposing Bill 115 on all Ontario teachers was that Minister Broten kept repeating (like a ‘broten record’) that all 55,000 OECTA members had accepted the deal and ergo so should we all. Did Minister Broten really think that OECTA members would never tell that their right to ratify the agreement had been usurped by their president Kevin O’Dwyer? Union members vote – that’s how it works. Unions also negotiate with their employers under the Labour Relations Act with their employers, which are the Boards – that’s how it works. So sit tight people – democracy will rule – that’s how it works. Given how grossly OECTA teachers have been misrepresented, which is just another of the Liberal scandals that is now beginning to emerge, Laurel Broten should resign.

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